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Submitted By: rosemary from wangaratta

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Last weekend - we had our first drive-by shooting in the county. It was a gang shooting between two Mexican gangs. 2 have been arrested 18 & 20 - gang members are not allowed permits - it would be interesting to find out where the guns came into their posession.

We do have a problem More...
21/Feb/08 5:12 AM
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Yes Eve, I would wonder that too. That I think is another part of the problem, those who are enablers, and babies having babies....not knowing how to parent or disciple children as they grow.
We speak about values and responsibility, but forget that one can only teach what one has learned. More...
21/Feb/08 10:14 AM
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Eve, I can only read your stories and shake my head in bemusement that a teacher would need to have a gun at school to protect themselves and others. As for carrying a concealed weapon.... It is totally outside my understanding.
I object to the police in Australia who work in shopping centres More...
21/Feb/08 2:30 PM
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Victoria - recently a woman who had a concealed carry permit (I believe it was in Colorado) asked her pastor about being on security for this "mega" church she belonged to. He agreed it might be wise - with the events that a taken place locally at a religious school. As man walked in More...
21/Feb/08 4:58 PM
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Considering all this talk on guns, maybe a lightening moment is needed.

Pierre, a brave French fighter pilot, takes his girlfriend, Marie, out for a pleasant little picnic by the River Seine. It's a beautiful day and love is in the air. Marie leans over to Pierre and says," Pierre More...
22/Feb/08 10:31 AM
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I was going to put this under Arts for old Pharts but I thought this may open up a debate of sorts...or not. Just been to a talk given by Naomi Wolf:
"Naomi Wolf shot to fame with the publication of her first book, The Beauty Myth, named by The New York Times as one of the most important More...
25/Feb/08 12:38 AM
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If I remember correctly, Naomi Wolf was Al Gore's fashion consultant during the 2000 election. She had him dressing in green & softer colors. I'm not kidding.
25/Feb/08 9:54 AM
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If you want a laugh about guns. See the cartoon on my page. It will be there for a couple more days.
25/Feb/08 9:56 AM
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Hey Billy, I read Wolf's reviews and thought the subject very interesting. As you say it would be good to get some response from the Americans on this site. Just hope it doesn't cause a meltdown
25/Feb/08 11:45 AM
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Billy...I'm intrigued by the topic you have put forth....I'm getting ready to check out the web site after dinner, but my initial reaction based on your summary is to agree with the author. I'm not suprised that many Americans agreed with her,and responded in an emotional manner. Fascism seems to More...
26/Feb/08 11:43 AM
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Mamacita - From the other side of the fence (using your words – please consider):

Fascism seems to describe the GREEN AGENDA mind-set. It has been controlled by a select few who do not take complaints, suggestions or criticism well. They seemed to think that anything put forth by them was More...
27/Feb/08 10:34 AM
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4. We are fast becoming a country that does not produce products and are even "out sourcing" industries that provide our "National Security". Why? Who profits, could it be those that are holding the markers on our National Debt (China, Arabs)? What can be done to turn this More...
27/Feb/08 10:36 AM
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9. Why is the government referring to anyone who refers to the Texas Corridor Transportation Project as the NAFTA Super Highway a “Conspiracy Theorist” or those who question whether the “Security, Prosperity Partnership” is a stepping stone to the North American Union “Black Helicopter Believers”. More...
27/Feb/08 10:36 AM
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The difference is 10¢.
28/Feb/08 1:53 AM
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Eve,You will not get any arguement from me about most of the points that you have put forth. I don't see much difference in the way either party has acted in the past either.
I am in particular agreement with your point about the need for the people to have more information, and lacking the More...
29/Feb/08 3:10 PM
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Being a 'typical' male, I have a question and a comment. The question: why do people report male oriented jokes (say with the word pen-s in them) as abusive but allow female oriented jokes to stay on the site as not abusive? The comment: I know most of the people on the site are female and enjoy More...
05/Mar/08 5:16 AM
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I agree Greg. We should remember that this is not an adults only site. I don't think sexually explicit jokes should be posted. Sure, they can be really funny, but nothing a child should be reading! If it's too risqué, send it via personal e-mail!
05/Mar/08 9:28 AM
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I understand what you are saying Greg and admit I may be one of the offenders. The jokes I put on site are those that I think will make people laugh but I think it's important to place jokes in the 'joke' category. If people are offended by some jokes, and I'm sure with the membership we now have More...
05/Mar/08 9:33 AM
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Where do we draw the line between funny, hilarious, risqué and offensive?
05/Mar/08 9:37 AM
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I understand what you are saying CG. I think that we should remember that this is not an adults only site and that even blanked out words do not remove the gist of the joke. so if it is not suitable for ALL to read then it shouldnt be posted.
05/Mar/08 9:40 AM
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CynB
as adults we should understand what we wouldnt want children to read.
05/Mar/08 9:41 AM
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This is not a question of deselecting the joke category. The average person coming on this site who has not been on before doesn't know they can (or should) deselect jokes. As Rosemary said in her post, if a joke isn't acceptable for all to read, it might not be wise to post it. I'm no prude, but More...
05/Mar/08 9:46 AM
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Anecdotally speaking, I spent 7 years in the Navy. I learned and entirely different vocabulary from the one I use now and nothing that anybody could possibly say here would faze me. Within months of my discharge to civilian life and becoming accustomed to life on campus, I met an interesting More...
05/Mar/08 9:58 AM
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I have really gotten a laugh from some of the recent jokes, but I must admit that when I saw that Martha's 15 year old daughter posted on the same page as some of the risque jokes...I cringed and felt a tad embarrassed. I'm sure many of today's teens have heard or read jokes we would not More...
05/Mar/08 10:03 AM
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Thanks Jeb and Mamacita - good points and made without being judgemental. No more jokes from me.
05/Mar/08 10:12 AM
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The primary mantra of any leadership situation is "Set The Example". Be a good idea to keep that in mind too. Sometimes it gets past me too.
05/Mar/08 10:14 AM
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Cyn B, I do hope no one is being judgemental, and please continue to post jokes. Everyone enjoys a good joke, and this discussion was certainly not meant to point fingers at anyone, just to raise the issue.
05/Mar/08 10:21 AM
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If I have offended any one with any of my jokes I'm sorry. I will keep them to myself from now on, I think the site will be a little bit sadder for it.
05/Mar/08 10:23 AM
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Greg, I feel that I cannot continue to post jokes because nobody has been able to answer my question - where do we draw the line and who decides? What I think is funny someone else may find offensive and vice versa.
eaa - I will miss your jokes, can I give you my email addy?
05/Mar/08 10:31 AM
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Oh boy...have to admit that I have had a jolly good laugh at some of the risque jokes and have probably been guilty of adding one or two.[of course it is a matter of perception and that is what we tend to forget]

I do agree that we all need to remember that this site is visited by many from More...
05/Mar/08 10:42 AM
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Good idea, Bean,
05/Mar/08 10:45 AM
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For crying out loud! Don't stop posting jokes! There isn't a joke afloat that can't be run through filters and made family friendly and still retain it's punch line. It may take a little more creative writing, but it can be done.

05/Mar/08 10:45 AM
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CynB
I was not pointing the finger at you or anyone when I said as adults we should know what is acceptible for children to read.
But Jeb has said it well as have others that we have to know the audience and what is acceptible for them. That is why I said we have to make the jokes readable More...
05/Mar/08 10:54 AM
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AGREE 100% Jeb. The point here is not to stop posting jokes, just use some discretion.
05/Mar/08 10:55 AM
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I think we're all agreed then. Thanks Jeb.
05/Mar/08 11:00 AM
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Phew! Glad that is resolved. I had visions of entire populations disappering from the site and complete libraries of japes, quips, whimseys and flimflams fading away for ever.
05/Mar/08 2:52 PM
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well, the Discussion is over, on this topic..is that what I gather?
and dunno why I feel like putting this here!!!
DISCUSSION, n.
A method of confirming others in their errors.
(Devils Dictionary)
05/Mar/08 5:55 PM
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Appy - would like a copy of that dictionary!!
05/Mar/08 6:06 PM
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999 can I help you?????
06/Mar/08 6:13 PM
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I'm an egg and I'm all quacked up and thats no yoke but I think I'll be all white.
06/Mar/08 6:16 PM
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